[UPS] RE: UPS digest, Vol 1 #85 - 2 msgs

Carl Lagoze lagoze@cs.cornell.edu
Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:30:21 -0400


Rob,

I did a scan of these links and it looks like jitterbug may be the best
choice.  My opinion is based on the fact that the install document is
the least hacky.  I'd go ahead and install it here but it looks like it
is happiest on a linux box - the public web server that we have under
our personal control is solaris.

Carl

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Tansley [mailto:rht96r@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:02 AM
> To: Carl Lagoze
> Cc: OA discussion list
> Subject: Re: [UPS] RE: UPS digest, Vol 1 #85 - 2 msgs
> 
> 
> Carl Lagoze wrote:
> > 
> > Hussein,
> > 
> > Great proposals.  I don't have an issue tracking system 
> around.  Anyone
> > else?
> 
> Plenty of them out there:
> 
> http://samba.anu.edu.au/jitterbug/
> http://www.lokigames.com/development/fenris.php3
> http://www.bugtracker.com/opensource/
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debbugs/
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bugzilla/
> 
> Someone with a bit more spare time than me should probably check them
> out to see which one suits us best. We could probably host one here at
> eprints.org (I'll be putting one up for our EPrints software when it's
> released) but I imagine a general open archives one should reside at
> openarchives.org.
> 
> R
> 
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:00 PM
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> > > Subject: UPS digest, Vol 1 #85 - 2 msgs
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> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >   1. Re: follow-up from workshop: proposal for technical working
> > >  group (Simeon Warner)
> > >
> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:54:03 -0600 (MDT)
> > > From: Simeon Warner <simeon@mmm.lanl.gov>
> > > Reply-To: simeon@lanl.gov
> > > To: ups@vole.lanl.gov
> > > Subject: Re: [UPS] follow-up from workshop: proposal for
> > > technical working
> > > group
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Hussein's eagerness to get a technical working
> > > group going with a separate mailing list. His proposal seems good
> > > and I volunteer to maintain a website of issues unless someone
> > > has a gloriously automatic system to offer.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Simeon.
> > >
> > > [I'm going on vacation tomorrow -- I look forward to catching
> > >  up with the discussion when I get back.]
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Hussein Suleman wrote:
> > > > let me start by saying that the workshop at DL00 was a
> > > great success for
> > > > the OA initiative in that there was implicit agreement on
> > > many issues,
> > > > including the following (at least from my perspective) :-
> > > >
> > > > 1. there is a need to impose some form of formal organizational
> > > > structure on the initiative for more 
> effective/efficient management
> > > > 2. the standards are not set in stone and we can change
> > > them to better
> > > > suit the existing and impending range of applications
> > > > 3. we need a thorough evaluation-based re-engineering of
> > > the standards,
> > > > ultimately leading to a "version 2"
> > > >
> > > > chiefly because of time constraints we were not able to
> > > delve further
> > > > into the solutions to each of these - i'm going to try to
> > > address the
> > > > last 2 points.
> > > >
> > > > to take the initiative, i want to propose the formation 
> of an open
> > > > working group to deal with technical issues. i do not 
> believe this
> > > > mailing list is the forum for discussions on "semicolons
> > > and slashes",
> > > > as we need to separate policy/outreach from the 
> technicalities of
> > > > implementation.
> > > >
> > > > im writing this up somewhat formally, because even though
> > > we dont need a
> > > > rigid structure, we need to state what we're about to avoid
> > > > organizational snafu's later ...
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > > Proposal: Working Group on Technical Issues related to
> > > Specifications of
> > > > the Open Archives Initiative
> > > >
> > > > Context:
> > > > A working group of the Open Archive initiative.
> > > >
> > > > Objectives:
> > > > 1. Evaluate current specifications and make recommendations
> > > for changes
> > > > to address current and future problems
> > > > 2. Produce a "version 2" specification by December 2000 (i
> > > recall this
> > > > was suggested at the workshop)
> > > > 3. Provide a forum for discussion of technical issues not
> > > of interest to
> > > > the general community
> > > >
> > > > Membership:
> > > > Open to all who are interested.
> > > >
> > > > Suggested Methods of Communication:
> > > > 1. A mailing list for separate discussion of in-depth
> > > technical issues
> > > > (Ed Fox and I just created such a list in case we need one)
> > > > 2. A website listing all open/resolved issues, with history,
> > > > explanations, etc. (anyone want to maintain this? or does
> > > someone have
> > > > an issue-tracking system we can use?)
> > > > 3. A meeting of protocol implementors to discuss/evaluate
> > > "version 2"
> > > > specifications/implementations before formally recommending
> > > a change of
> > > > specifications (this was suggested at the workshop).
> > > >
> > > > Management:
> > > > 1. One or more Website Administrators if necessary
> > > (voluntary positions)
> > > > 2. One of more Mailing List Administrators if necessary 
> (voluntary
> > > > positions)
> > > > 3. One or more Coordinators to coordinate the activities of
> > > the working
> > > > group and liaise with the OAi Steering Committee (nominated
> > > by working
> > > > group).
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > i know this sounds like overkill, but im a strong advocate
> > > of building
> > > > organization from the ground up. in essence, all im
> > > proposing is that
> > > > those of us interested in technical issues join a new 
> mailing list,
> > > > someone volunteer to manage it, someone volunteer to 
> manage an issue
> > > > list and we nominate coordinator/s ...
> > > >
> > > > thoughts ? (if there are no principle objections, it may be
> > > better to
> > > > simply initiate the second mailing list and move 
> further discussion
> > > > there)
> > > >
> > > > i want to put off responding to Simeon and Robert's
> > > comments until we
> > > > take a decision on where that discussion is to take place.
> > > >
> > > > and, lastly, before we publish the "proceedings" of the 
> workshop, if
> > > > anyone who attended wants to add a position statement you
> > > can still do
> > > > so through the workshop website at 
> http://purl.org/net/oaijune00/
> > > >
> > > > ttfn
> > > > hussein
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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